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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:51 am
by Makewayz
YES WE DO NEED TRACY TO COME BACK AND CLARIFY HER DAMN VAGUE AZZED QUESTION.

NOW BACK TO TAMOOSE-FACE SNAKEHEAD .... :angry:

I'M APPALLED THAT YOU MADE REFERENCE THAT I'M NOT A REAL MAN BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ANOTHER MAN. SO IF I'M NOT A REAL MAN, WHAT KIND AM I?

AND RANGER B ... YOUR RESPONSE WAS WELL PUT. :yeah:

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:55 am
by Hmph
half a man? :eh: I don't know. I mean think about it, you sort of do same things a woman does with a man, so doesn't that divide the man factor a little? :think:

let's ponder that for a second..... :scratch:

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:01 am
by Makewayz
UHM, NO I DON'T DO THE SAME THINGS ... BECAUSE IF THAT WAS THE CASE ... THE MAN WOULD JUST BE WITH A WOMEN, BECAUSE THIS LIFESTYLE IS LOOKED DOWN UPON BY MANY. MOST PEOPLE IN THE LIFESTYLE WISH THEY WEREN'T, BUT DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT.

TRUST ME THE THINGS I DO, ARE MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT YOU COULD EVER DO. BELIEVE THAT. WHY DO YOU THINK MARRIED MEN, CHEAT WITH MEN. DON'T BE SO CLOSE-MINDED, YOU MIGHT JUST LEARN SOMETHING. BUT I'M DONE WITH YOU FOR TONIGHT. I HAVEN'T BEEN INSULTED IN SUCH A WAY IN A MINUTE .... AND I NEED TIME TO RECOVER.

GOODNIGHT. :loser:

Hmmm...

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:12 am
by Hmph
first of all the "not a real man" was a joke, guess like the repeated use "c-u-n-t" word towards women in general is humorous to you. :roll:

but while we're on the subject, well, help me understand since "straight people need to get with the program"?

you're a man who sleeps with men? women sleep with men? but you're saying that what you do is diferent and better than what women do with men? therefore, not equal to women on some level?
Makewayz wrote:TRUST ME THE THINGS I DO, ARE MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT YOU COULD EVER DO. BELIEVE THAT. WHY DO YOU THINK MARRIED MEN, CHEAT WITH MEN.
because what I'm sensing these past few days is women ain't got nothing a man really wants, because the majority men only want men, and women ain't nothing or just the "c" word.

if that's not the case, you should try and be more respectful initially to the same people who sleep with the same type people as you, to make more men and women. because then it won't be about trying to "get others to get with the program" but instead about "does that program include respect or what?", esp. toward women who also sleep with men.

but I guess we can bring that up in another "help us understand this issue" which as you say is very common and the majority are all in dark about it.

I don't go through my day as "who's straight and who's gay?", different priorities....

Okay here we go

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:46 am
by Silly Wabbit
What I meant was when having a direct conversation about something why can't a direct answer be given instead of "I don't know" or just :dontknow: But you are right I guess it depends upon question.

Like just other day I asked big head Marcus if he had seen something neighbor dropped off. His answer was "I don't know, prolly". What does that mean? & come to find out not only did he see it he placed a glass of soda on the envelope on table. When lifting up his glass the envelope was stuck to the glass (it still has glass ring). He removed envelope then sat it on kitchen table then placed other stuff on top of it.

Do yall do that to drive us crazy? Are simple things not that important? He obviously had to be home first to receive it. Why not pay more attention? :x But can always tell you where the remote for TV is.

Or when I ask what happened after something major happened with someone else, I hear "I'll tell you later". Does later mean next lifetime or this one? & that's not just Marcus, but other men in general.

You're too secretive as if secret agents. We don't want to know everything, but a simple direct answer would be nice occassionally. Not a detour to "Huh? Land".

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:11 pm
by Makewayz
OKAY ... FIRST OF ALL, SINCE TAMRA ... SHE DOESN'T GET CALLED TAM AGAIN UNTIL I'M NO LONGER PISSED ... SAID THAT HER AND SOME OF THE OTHER WOMEN ARE FEELING SALTY ABOUT ME CALLING THEM CUNTS ... I SHALL CEASE FIRING AT THEM IN THAT MANNER. EVEN THOUGH SHE SAID I AIN'T A REAL MAN. NONETHELESS ... ALLOW ME TO ANSWER THIS NONSENSICAL QUESTION.

:roll:

FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF A PERSON ANSWERS A QUESTION WITH, "I DON'T KNOW" ... REGARDLESS WHETHER THEY KNOW THE ANSWER OR NOT ... "I DON'T KNOW" IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A DIRECT RESPONSE.

ALSO, "I'LL TELL YOU LATER" WOULD TOO BE CLASSIFIED AS A DIRECT RESPONSE TO A QUESTION. IF IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO ANSWER A QUESTION WHEN YOU WANT TO, SAME GOES FOR US. JUST GET OVER IT.

JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET THE ANSWER YOU WANT WHEN YOU ASK US A QUESTION, YOU CAN'T ACCUSE US OF WITH-HOLDING INFORMATION.

YOU HAVE THE NERVE ... WHEN GOD TOOK OUR RIB TO CREATE YOU CREATURES {I HOPE THAT DIDN'T HURT TOO BAD} ... HE SHOULD HAD INCLUDED INSTRUCTIONS.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS TAMRA ...

YOU'RE A MAN WHO SLEEPS WITH MEN? <<<< IS NOT A QUESTION.
WOMEN SLEEP WITH MEN? <<<<<< IS NOT A QUESTION, BUT I'LL TELL YOU THIS ... SOME OF EM' SLEEP WIT H WOMEN TOO.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHAT YOU DO IS DIFFERENT AND BETTER THAN WHAT WOMEN DO WITH MEN? <<<< IS NOT A QUESTION, BUT I'LL ATTEMPT TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

WHAT I DO IS VERY MUCH SO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU CAN DO, BECAUSE NUMBER ONE ... YOU CAN'T PENETRATE HIM NOW CAN YOU ... YOU'D BE SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF MEN THAT DIDN'T KNOW THEY COULD COME WITHOUT TOUCHING THEMSELVES FROM THAT ACTION. AND THERE'S A REASON IT HAPPENS ... THINK ABOUT IT, AND THINK REAL HARD ... BUT THERE'S A REASON FOR EVERYTHING ...OOPS IS THAT ME WITH-HOLDING INFO ... LOL ... MY DAYUM CHOICE. I SAY, WHAT I WANT... I ANSWER HOW I WILL OR MAY. GET OVER IT.

I WILL NEVER BE EQUAL TO A WOMAN ... AND WOULD NEVER TRY TO COMPARE. THERE IS NOW COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO ACTIONS.

YES WOMEN DO HAVE WHAT MEN WANT. THERE WAS A TIME I COULDN'T GET ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU WOMAN HAVE TO OFFER ... THEN AFTER BEING IN LOVE WITH THE MOTHER OF MY CHILD, WANTING TO MARRY HER, BE WITH HER FOREVER, AND HER TELLING ME I'M ACTING LIKE A 40 YEAR OLD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SMOKE AND DRINK LIKE I USED TO ... BECAUSE WE ARE NOW PARENTS ... SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE WITH ME ... WELL SHE DIDN'T SAY IT, BUT ACTIONS DO SPEAK MUCH LOUDER THAN WORDS.... WHEN YOU READ MY BOOK ABOUT THAT SITUATION, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND IT MORE, BECAUSE I AINT GON' TYPE IT ALL HERE.

THAT FELT GOOD. :whistle:

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:38 pm
by Hmph
I didn't understand much of this. :scratch: me personally "I'll tell you later" is not communication, it's avoidance of communication, which leads to more serious problems later and the reason many couples break up. people don't want to be around people they have to guess at everything all the time. one of the reasons they get involved is because they care about the other person.

evasive communication means you have to guess for someone, and you'll guess wrong everytime unless you're a mind reader. and if you have to guess what someone means all the time, me personally, why bother or you're just desperate and settling. I'd rather guess myself elsewhere, because I'll guess correctly on my own, and one less thing to worry about. and worrying causes gray hairs, and you know how we women are with those :biglaff:

people also don't like to be kept in the dark, thus WHY questions are asked. take the revelations of many down-low men in relationships with women. the devastation of the women who find out long after the fact is sometimes unrecoverable. I saw this just this Fri on Oprah.
but to answer your not a real man comment, :sorry: that was a joke and a joke after several references to the "c" word and after hearing other stuff as well.

as for man penetrating another man: Lev. chapt 18, verse 22, and yeah yeah, i know some feel "Jesus" makes this acceptable, but i seem to recall Yesohua stating he came to confirm the law, which is that of Moses set for GENERATIONS. God's timeframe isn't years, it's generations. And Yesohua is a direct descendant of Moses. I think we're to love all and do unto others, but that didn't mean others can do whatever the hell they want and forget God's own words. how offensive do you think that is to God? take a wild guess.

my thing is each person is accountable for their own actions, and I'm not looking at each person I meet as gay or straight, only how much integrity they have, because for day to day experiences, THAT is what matters most to me.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:48 pm
by Makewayz
IF THE GAY LIFESTYLE IS A SIN ...

JESUS DIED FOR IT.

PERIOD.

ABOUT COMMUNICATION ... I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, WHEN YOU PUT IT THAT WAY ... BUT STATED AS TRACY ASKED IT ... WHY DO WE WITHHOLD INFORMATION.... IT DEPENDS ON THE QUESTION. POINT BLANK. YOU ALL WITHHOLD LOTS OF INFORMATION AS WELL.

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:05 pm
by Laurie
Well Reggie, you confuse me on your last post...
IF THE GAY LIFESTYLE IS A SIN ...

JESUS DIED FOR IT.

PERIOD.
Meaning that it means it's okay? It's twisted because Murder is a sin, and Jesus died for all sins, does it means it's a excuse ?

If Murder is a sin, Jesus died for it. Period.

Don't you think it's a little twisted? It kinda sounds like it's okay, why bother Jesus died for all sins. So we are not accountable for anything?

Plus, I don't have anything against homosexuality. I just don't understand why you justify your sexual orientation and lifestyle with Jesus's death...

Why use Jesus's death to justify it...You don't need that, do u?

And when I meet someone what matters to me is not gay or straight it's nice or not....

Hmmmm

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:12 pm
by Hmph
So all sins are acceptable lifestyles?

So the murderers in prison should be released because Jesus died for it and they can just keep doing it?

And pedophiles/rapists should be allowed to practice what they like? Jesus died for the rapist, so the woman shouldn't press charges or complain.

And frauds should also be considered acceptable lifestyles, so don't trip when you're robbed, Jesus died for it.

Adulterers are also sinners but their lifestyles should be considered acceptable because Jesus died for it.

And all those Ten Commandments? Are they just suggestions? Because since "Jesus" died for them, it's ok to break them all like a to do list?

So what exactly is a sin then? Because maybe I'm totally confused now.