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other side of interracial dating: sistahs are moving on...

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 8:36 pm
by Hmph
in light of the numerous black men who only prefer white women and a few other non-black types (a.k.a., the NBA, NFL, MLB, top 10 collegiate sports, politicians, lawyers, doctors, media/entertainment :lol:), here's a story of one sistah who's moved on in search of love.

can't say I blame her. no sense in making yourself available for persons just not interested.
Black Women's Dating Options
Source: The BStar News
by Deardra Shuler
01/10/2006


"As an African American woman doing well professionally, I found I wasn't doing well personally, meaning not married. I know a lot of women like this. They ask: ‘Where are the brothers? Why are we still single?' Many successful women just want companionship. Women realize not everyone can make crazy doe. However, they do want men to be responsible. I think Black men and Black women often move at different paces.

Many Black men grow up without fathers so may not know how to give love. But I do think men want to feel needed. Chris Rock once said to me ‘Black women should not be mad at Black men for dating white women, they should be mad at themselves for not exercising their options.' I started to think about this and eventually wrote my film. It's about a woman who crossed the color line.

It isn't unusual these days to see women alone, especially women of color. You see them dining with friends, shopping with a gal pal or catching an afternoon matinee. These women are strong, attractive, and intelligent women from all walks of life.

Many of whom have successfully carved out a winning niche for themselves. As they push open the corporate doors, some women have managed to stash away funds, drive nice cars, and even purchase a home of their own. These women are not unhappy. Some even enjoy the freedom that a single lifestyle affords. Yet, for many women, the American Dream of achievement has a slightly bitter aftertaste. Without that special someone to share their success with what is a single Black woman to do. Many ask: Where are the Black men?

These women are not just seeking any Black man. They seek Black men who are their intellectual and spiritual equivalents. While Black women may not expect Black men to match their salaries, they do expect them to be emotional and financial contributors. With an increasingly limited dating field what is a loyal Black woman's choice? Statistics estimate that 10 percent of Black men are marrying white women. These numbers continue to grow as some Black men hop color lines after achieving success. Therefore, is it now time, for loyal Black women, to consider other alternatives? Television writer and co-executive producer Kriss Turner explores these options in her upcoming movie, "Something New" starring Sanaa Lathan, Simon Baker, Mike Epps and Taraji P. Henson.

Born in Hawaii, transplanted to Seattle, then California, Kriss Turner presently resides in Los Angeles where she writes for television. She formerly wrote for shows such as "Sister to Sister," "Living Single" "Cosby" "The Whoopie Show," "Bernie Mac," and presently "Everybody Hates Chris." Turner's interest in television started at age12, when director Tony Singletary first handed her a "What's Happening" and "What's Happening Now" script. Turner was hooked.

"I knew I wanted to be in show business but initially I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do. I thought perhaps I would write a book or be a producer or director. I ended up being a PA (production assistant). I got folks coffee, lunches and answered phones for many years. I did whatever it took to be around the business. I even developed major secretarial skills as a writer's assistant," elucidated Ms. Turner. "But frankly, that is the best way to learn the business; from the bottom up. People often ask me how they can get into television writing. I tell them get in on the ground floor, meet people, ask questions, observe and hopefully when ready, you will know someone to give your work to…On my shows, my title is co-executive producer but that is really an elevated TV writer's title. An executive producer/writer for television is usually the creator. For example, on ‘Everybody Hates Chris,' Chris Rock and Ali LeRoi created that show and are definitely involved with it."

Turner explained the complexities a budding writer faces when presenting ideas or scripts to the television industry. "It is very difficult for people who haven't done television before to get into television writing and/or sell an idea about a show, mainly because the buyers who are buying shows are looking for experienced people. However, there is always the possibility that if you haven't developed a show before, they might pair you up with a more experienced person," she explained. "Usually, the way it works is that you have to have already written a few shows. If you have a story concept, you would then discuss your concept with an agent, who in turn, sets you up with a studio. If the studio likes your story the studio presents your idea to the network.

If the network likes it, they order it and then pay a licensing fee to the studio to air it. The studio pays the writer to write the show. The writer writes a few drafts of the pilot. If the pilot goes over, then the brass orders 13 episodes which in TV language is called ordering your pilot to series. Staff writers, crew, and cast for the show are then hired," continued Kriss. "I did not create the characters in ‘Everybody Hates Chris.' I was hired after the pilot was written. I am one of the co-executive producers which basically means, I am a senior writer. The show is about Chris Rock's childhood and he contributes a lot of ideas to the show. It's hard to come up with ideas week after week and that is why you have a staff. We all sit around brainstorming until someone comes up with an idea, others contribute their ideas, and before long we have an episode. It's truly a collaborative effort" remarked the attractive scribe.

Turner talked about her upcoming movie. "As an African American woman doing well professionally, I found I wasn't doing well personally, meaning not married. I know a lot of women like this. They ask: ‘Where are the brothers? Why are we still single?' Many successful women just want companionship. Women realize not everyone can make crazy doe. However, they do want men to be responsible. I think Black men and Black women often move at different paces. Many Black men grow up without fathers so may not know how to give love. But I do think men want to feel needed.

My film opens up new possibilities to Black women. It says perhaps its time to let go of embedded outdated ideas and discover love can come in many hues."

"Something New" will be released February 3, 2006 and is certain to have people talking for some time to come.

Re: other side of interracial dating: sistahs are moving on.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:13 pm
by Silly Wabbit
Hmph wrote:in light of the numerous black men who only prefer white women and a few other non-black types (a.k.a., the NBA, NFL, MLB, top 10 collegiate sports, politicians, lawyers, doctors, media/entertainment :lol:), here's a story of one sistah who's moved on in search of love.
:lmfao:

I am one of these sistahs. I didn't pick my sweetie because he is white. I am with him because he is smart, funny, has great integrity & family values. Only issue is religion. But religion does not rule our day to day lives.

I was dating a few guys when we met. Dating not involved. The more time I spent with Marcus the more I discovered we had a lot of interests in common. It was also easier to talk with him about anything than the other guys.

I hate to say this but the black & latino guys who asked me out were only after sex. They were not interested in anything about me, only when I'd be available at home to come over. One suggested I needed a man at my home. I assumed that meant he was homeless & wanted my home. :lol:

It is very easy to meet men in NYC. There are many singles spots. Walking down streets you can quickly meet someone. You have to be willing to take the time to get to know & don't compromise your principles for the sake of having any man.

I would suggest any single woman take 6 months to a year off from dating, preferably while living alone. Get to know more about yourself. Or you can lose yourself in each new relationship jumped into. Or date with no involvement just see what's out there.

Re: other side of interracial dating: sistahs are moving on.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:24 pm
by KingFo1
Hmph wrote:in light of the numerous black men who only prefer white women and a few other non-black types (a.k.a., the NBA, NFL, MLB, top 10 collegiate sports, politicians, lawyers, doctors, media/entertainment :lol:), here's a story of one sistah who's moved on in search of love.

can't say I blame her. no sense in making yourself available for persons just not interested.
From a black male's point of view (Who is not in one of those professions listed above)...

Honestly, I really don't care about color...even though I've never officially dated a white girl, I was really close friends with one for a good number of years...and I liked her, even enough to go out with her, but we couldn't at the time because of other circumstances...which I won't go into now, and decided to just stay good friends, but she was mad cool...we would always have a good time.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't matter to me what color you are, what background you come from...heck, honestly I'd just be happy if I could find someone that likes me for me, and who I have some things in common with.

Oh, and not to mention that they've gotta have something going for themselves...if I can be independent, then my woman should be too

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:31 pm
by miltie
It is good to hear of more people - especially women, becoming more confident to cross color/race lines in the dating world. :clap: When you love somebody, its all about how they make you feel about yourself and what kind of person they are, not what they look like standing next to you.

--On kind of a funny side note though, Its true that if you're just not attracted to someone and there's no chemistry, there's pretty much nothing you can do. I went on a few dates with this attractive, intelligent, nice (but kinda naive) young Indian man and oh my god he sounded so much like Apooh from the Simpsons I just couldn't do it anymore. <DOH>!

Re: other side of interracial dating: sistahs are moving on.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:35 pm
by Silly Wabbit
KingFo1 wrote:Oh, and not to mention that they've gotta have something going for themselves...if I can be independent, then my woman should be too
This is most important. Because you will either grow apart or become dependent on other person, clingy. 'What are you doing? Where are you going?' questions about things you have to do, like work. :roll: You become their focus instead of something else for theirself.

When you have to suggest things for other person to do to occupy their time something is wrong.

If you have nothing to do, @ least be a good support system, not a drain or burden.

Re: other side of interracial dating: sistahs are moving on.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:16 am
by Hmph
KingFo1 wrote:From a black male's point of view (Who is not in one of those professions listed above)...
aaaah yes, I forgot the engineering category. this area is hard on both sides because you rarely encounter another black employee in the engineering area or company in some cases. most people tend to date people they see everyday, which is at work. not a good idea, but it happens.

other people set you up w/folks outside of work. the ones that killed me were white employees setting me up w/someone simply because they were black. :o felt like I was in an episode of Roots or some plantation movie "now yall run along".

my neighbor set me up w/a street type black guy. we had nothing to talk about. :shrug: he asked me what I did for a living, it was like talking to a blonde during a spelling bee. he just didn't get anything about engineering. and all my female and male friends were in engineering or high tech recruiters.

wasn't hard to figure out what he did. he delivered books to the university. and it was a top 10 ivy league university at that. thinking maybe he should have picked up one of those books and learned how to own the delivery company.

but he was simple and pretty content, which is the one thing I liked about him. what you see is what you get. just couldn't discuss nothing and I was no club rat or rap concert hoochie.

at least have a joke or two or something :wait: longest night of my life, and almost fell asleep. or I should have made the plans. he picked a restaurant and then movie, where I was drop dead tired and bored.

I would have done a comedy club where dinner is served. if nothing to talk about, at least I can laugh my ass off. :whew:

best date I had was with a white guy from Chicago. he was a well-known chef at the high tech company I worked for. but he smoked. he even brought a gift for my cat, who gave a surprising approval.

I wouldn't kiss him goodnight and he assumed I didn't like him, I just gave him a hug. in hindsight should have put up with the smoking as he may have quit. and a CHEF!! young and dumb I tell ya!

he was a great guy, simple, yet funny, fun to be with and loved going to baseball games and playing spades.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:17 am
by Hmph
miltie wrote:I went on a few dates with this attractive, intelligent, nice (but kinda naive) young Indian man and oh my god he sounded so much like Apooh from the Simpsons I just couldn't do it anymore. <DOH>!
:lmfao: oh man. but I have met some fine ass Indian men. it's like "heeey which way you going?" :lashes:

and even a tall dark asian (Japanese) man as well as a native american who made every woman in car stop and stare. it was a race to see if he was interested in any one of the sistahs in the car.

it really all is in the personality. doesn't matter what they do really, just that you get along.

now when we'd go somewhere w/my friend Masa, women just want him. he's 6'3 and Japanese. nice guy and very good looking. one girl called me repeatedly to set him up w/her. she was white. he just wasn't interested because she didn't talk much. maybe too nervous. :shrug: