I have to wonder if Nessa would have said "yes" to marriage knowing these things about Kobe beforehand. and let's just pretend Kobe was broke, I'm sure she'd have kept it moving
are you saying that age limits some from having a value system or respect for something they've committed to, which involves another person's feelings (their spouse)? and are you saying that a man only respects marriage/commitment until he's older?
Hi. First of all, I know the subject matter is about interracial. And I know I made my points about that. Value systems conversation appears to be a progression in the mix of interraial viewpoints, but the marriage prior to the 70's is another matter to answer and a "battle of the sexes" could erupt from my viewpoint-possible. I'm going to refrain from being drawn into that one or if that is NOT your intent, nevertheless, my comments are murred on that subject matter.
I mentioned older, not only for a man,but also a woman. Why anyone can go all the way back to the studies of child development, like from Piaget and others and see, that they shockingly think that a good age for education is 37. Though we largely cant do that. (Now we can in the dum down era). Stand to reason, that one is not going to get a thought through system of values-for many, either men or woman-until education is taken seriously. You know that young girls are into their physical self and sex. Heck, what come out of their mouths on the Net? Not ALL of course. But largely. Hormones rules! Now when i talk to a woman over 40, it's definitely a different stage from life. A long distance from the 20 something mentality. So its not just men only. Women, too. Men are more aggressive and assertive, on the whole and that's psychobio. Since we're out there, it's easy to judge. When a woman is "caught," She may say "I'm sorry" and her case wont' hit the "judgement column. But, uh, don't we live in a double standard society?
I have to wonder if Nessa would have said "yes" to marriage knowing these things about Kobe beforehand. and let's just pretend Kobe was broke, I'm sure she'd have kept it moving
I agree w/you 100% that Vanessa would have kept moving. I'm sure her mommy told her something like, "baby, you hit the lottery. "Now, I think you're not totally up on Kobe's background before he got hitched, else you would know "why" he makes today around $25 mil a year in endorsments contracts. Kobe had a squeaky clean image. While the Lakers ho chased from town to town before Kobe was married, he would sit in his hotel room, alone. He had little or no part in it. So, he wasn't popular because he was not "one of the guys." He was known to be too faithful to one girl at a time before marriage. A loner. A rising superstar, getting married because he's sure of himself?? Looks great to endorsers! Interesting enough, I know married guys who was the same way@faithful to g/f's before marriage. (Their lives are private and I respect that. Won't go further into that). And they can relate to Kobe quite well. Now, after Kobe married, things changed. Marriage is big decision, but hoes on top of hoes will play married guys, like a challenge ,anyway. Kobe's a kid. What he thought he knew about himself, his integrity, is tested in life. The girls looks good, he's lonely on the road. But anybody can fall into temptation. I'm prior Navy. Been overseas. One learn things. And one learns to shut the "f" up, if it's not your life. Now, Kobe started hoe monging like some of the other ball players. He spurged and took advantage of his King Superstar status with the hoes that that threw himself at him. I went to a Lakers game this season. It's amazing how so many girls, from elemtary school age to 40 something were Kobe crazy!. I even tried to get into a Laker's practice to watch the team. (No public allowed). Hoe's followed me, yeah, like i knew how to get in.
Ending, I think a good thing that happened to Kobe in the K-Ho nightmare was that he met Pam Mackey. There is no doubt in my mind, that this lady & attorney taught him something. Maybe about "values", as well, as cultural literacy. Thing may make more sense now. Black man beware, too. He may still be the same, but the roots are planted by her. Don't think he doesn't appreciate that. After all, she's still Kobe's civil suit. Though she's a crimininal attorney. Yes, more cash for her. But, she etched some things in his head. too. I call this a man's intuition. But I have no doubt about what's she's done for him. He has an incredible gift by the Cosmic. I don't think he would have such a gift if God or the Comoes didn't think he was deserving.
at first it was shocking moving there from the south. then it was like an overall not caring because of values in general which weren't race related, which brings me back to original point: should people care given they don't know the person's value system at all?
lol im in bangkok so i ain't gonna say nothing bout that hahah yall already know how i feel on that sub. 
are you saying that age limits some from having a value system or respect for something they've committed to, which involves another person's feelings (their spouse)? 
and are you saying that a man only respects marriage/commitment until he's older?
because many were married at 16 or 17, lived and died with same woman. they're not blind, they're gonna look, everyone looks, but they had enough respect to not touch. or dayum 
at least not have it make national news only to find out there's other women set up in several cities just for sex. yet, stood before God, family and friends and recited marrital vows. because I have to wonder if Nessa would have said "yes" to marriage knowing these things about Kobe beforehand. and let's just pretend Kobe was broke, I'm sure she'd have kept it moving 
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the old, don't want him until he has someone else routine. but if it was race, then you got spared, how silly was that.
we are the most sane and rational creatures on the face of the earth. 
