well time for me to start boycotting all products made in Mexico, or any U.S. business which hires/busses in Mexican aliens that only speak spanish, but are first point of contact.
perhaps a little humbling will open Fox's eyes. and of course he's fond of the character as he himself is fond of racism.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html
Vicente Fox Watch: it's time for a humbling boycott
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- carollline
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Hi I agree the stamp looks racist to me.
When he says he likes the character, that may be true and I do not know anything about Fox and his racist attitude.
But here is another look at another view point.
I was born in 1934. I was never ever racist, as my family (especially Dad) was about as open minded an taught us love. I also listened to my Sunday School teacher and God made us all and that has always been my belief. We had no Blacks in our neighborhood or our grammar school. A few (maybe three or four) in jr and sr high.
But let me tell you that one of my very favorite story book characters was "Little Black Sambo"
I really liked that brave little boy. I was really shocked as an older adult when it came out that this little friend of mine was thought of as a racist cartoon.
The guy on the stamp is not so unlike "Little Sambo"
But I do see your point.
Since I have not read the cartoon and I do not know Fox, I will have to wait and watch for all of your replies. I would love to hear more of your ideas.
Please just don't call me racist.
When he says he likes the character, that may be true and I do not know anything about Fox and his racist attitude.
But here is another look at another view point.
I was born in 1934. I was never ever racist, as my family (especially Dad) was about as open minded an taught us love. I also listened to my Sunday School teacher and God made us all and that has always been my belief. We had no Blacks in our neighborhood or our grammar school. A few (maybe three or four) in jr and sr high.
But let me tell you that one of my very favorite story book characters was "Little Black Sambo"
I really liked that brave little boy. I was really shocked as an older adult when it came out that this little friend of mine was thought of as a racist cartoon.
The guy on the stamp is not so unlike "Little Sambo"
But I do see your point.
Since I have not read the cartoon and I do not know Fox, I will have to wait and watch for all of your replies. I would love to hear more of your ideas.
Please just don't call me racist.
yeah I know what you mean. at a certain time, characters like sambo, al jolson's black face, queenie from gone with the wind and steppin fetchit were all african-americans had as images, and it's still believed that african-americans primary role is to entertain and speak in such a manner. being too smart at a certain time was a threat to many, thus why slaves were not allowed to read, and blacks not allowed to attend public schools or have rights to vote or hold public office.
I've encountered people on the job who's only interaction with blacks were from TV. one boss expected me to show up and entertain her with facial and slapstick comedy while not respecting my brain.
certain images were what made whites feel comfortable enough to relate to african-americans because they were less powerful, however, further created the stereotypes, that were created under british slave rule.
can't go back in time and change things as people are here now and have been brought up with values and certain beliefs. however, what can be changed is for people to have awareness of others, as in put themselves in the plight of others.
vicente fox is coming out swinging with one wild comment after another. he thinks too much of himself, kind of like george wallace did in the south. time for him to get a humbling financial lesson, as in "fine, you want to classify and label people, then you remain with your labeled people and make your profits through them only since they're so much greater than thou"
"when money talks there are very few interruptions"
I've encountered people on the job who's only interaction with blacks were from TV. one boss expected me to show up and entertain her with facial and slapstick comedy while not respecting my brain.
certain images were what made whites feel comfortable enough to relate to african-americans because they were less powerful, however, further created the stereotypes, that were created under british slave rule.
can't go back in time and change things as people are here now and have been brought up with values and certain beliefs. however, what can be changed is for people to have awareness of others, as in put themselves in the plight of others.
vicente fox is coming out swinging with one wild comment after another. he thinks too much of himself, kind of like george wallace did in the south. time for him to get a humbling financial lesson, as in "fine, you want to classify and label people, then you remain with your labeled people and make your profits through them only since they're so much greater than thou"
"when money talks there are very few interruptions"
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- carollline
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That is one reason I am here at this forum. I love the study of people.part of Tamra's quote
what can be changed is for people to have awareness of others, as in put themselves in the plight of others.
Over my many years, I have heard some of the very most ridiculous remarks made by dumb white folks.
I would be the only one arguing against their words.
I remember far far back in my earliest years,
I may have been as young as 3 or 4. I saw my first black person. My Uncle, was I guess 15. He took me to a corner grocery store and a large black man walked in. My Uncle told me he was a boogy man and tried to scare me. I was so mad at my uncle because I thought that was a very mean thing to say. I wanted to go up and hug the black man. My thoughts, since I was so young was that man can't help what color he is. And Uncle should not make fun of him.
As I got older I just plain stopped arguing with the fools. I left California after High School Graduation. I moved to Maryland where my mothers relatives were numerous and most of them bigoted.
The uncles and the male cousins of course were the worst. But now I have to admit, they were really a
product of their time and environment. They were not evil mean folks.
I was very fortunate in meeting a very kind sensible person to be my soul mate. He is quiet but truly believes the way I do.
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But "little black Sambo" I thought the story portrayed him as being very smart and very brave. I guess it was the fact that he was in the jungle.
SO GETTING BACK TO THE SUBJECT.
I will have to read up on Mr. Fox. and his idea's.
The world is complicated. As young person in California in the 1940's, I thought there was more racist problems pointing at the Mexicans.
Now that fellow George Wallace was a real ugly nastyvicente fox is coming out swinging with one wild comment after another. he thinks too much of himself, kind of like george wallace did in the south. time for him to get a humbling financial lesson, as in "fine, you want to classify and label people, then you remain with your labeled people and make your profits through them only since they're so much greater than thou"
bigot. I hated him.
We will talk again!